Wednesday 24th November

Values and Tastes- How do we form these?


Jack Vectoriano:
his work is the most purchased pieces in Britain, there are no critical claims against him and his work is not necessarily seen as 'good'


Is 'Art' different from 'Fashion'?


Criteria for being 'better', 'best' or 'good'? Developing ideas what does that mean.
Academic study (top-up year) theory: Talk from an intelligent background and be more informed




History of the development of art:


Ancient Egypt, 3000-1000BC 
Until 1900 all artist weren't split into there specific backgrounds they where just 'artists'
Renaissance 1420AD-1525AD, Rebirth, Weston World seen 'Man' as being able to affect and order the world through differences in art.
Continual contested of pieces of art


1420-1525AD First example of a person in a piece of work wasn't seen be to relevant to put yourself in the piece


Romanticism 1800
Battling nature, the idea of evolution, sub line landscape


Realism:
shocking and offencive
insulting of my taste, there's no 'skill'
No power/money why are these people there, they are not important.
New ways of depicting things and understanding things
Reality!!


Postmodernism:
Martin Creed, his work shows taste, he is liked and well respected
In one exhibition he was scandalous
Payed to have lights turned on and off in the gallery, The public didn't really see the point in it although he was considering everything you see feel, touch, smell ect.  Activated the whole space, he used this space in a very simple way. Offended people as they though this wasn't real art
He did a video where he payed people to walk onto a stage and be sick this was seen to take up a whole area not just a pretty picture in a frame but using all the space. He is interested in what an artist actually is, vomiting is some sort of expression instead of on a canvas


Postmodernism- what happen just before now.


Damion Hearse
'Being good at crafts skills is what an artist is. There are different understandings of what an artist is/does'


Paying some crafts people to create work, so is this classed as being manufactured or even fraudulent? Manufacturing art work..


Prior to the Renaissance-been commissioned to depict religion, morals and themes ect. The person was not considered to be a subject to be in isolation


Playing the Elder AD77
'Natural History' was shown what they should be like Artists somehow contributed to society not just manufacturing work.


Lorenzo Ghiberti:
separated into a sculpture, goldsmith and an architect. First artist to write an autobiography 1450s
Marked his spot as a unique status. 


Valued for our own talent


Francesso del Cossa 1470
Plea to patron to be paid for a commission as making a name for himself,, He will continue to be paid per square foot.


Artist as Entertainers:
Arouse senses and provide experiences that trigger emotions: Perception- How we construct things, Our responses


Michael Craig Martin:
1966 Oak Tree which was a glass of water on a glass shelf. He was interested in the fact that are you an artist or do you just paint art work. Intellectual response.


Art&Crafts Divide:
Craft-skills and processes
Artists are none of the above.
What the purpose of n artist in the modern world finding new ways of doing things, breaking away from the 'old; art


The White Cube Gallery Space
Nothing affects the work
The art work is treated with a lot of space and treated like its religious
In a gallery contest yellow wall would be seen as a statement


Modernism:


Complex and diverse-not straight forward progression from early avant, grade to:
Politicised
Expressive
Formal
The Irrational


Massive amount of different things, End of work also ties in with the Industrial Revolution


Who's views do galleries affect?
Modernism-is mainly movements


A unique individuals, Artists as having access to higher sources of inspiration and talent
The mythology of the artist as having a unique temperamental personality
Artists to be seen as 'others'
Artists seen outside the 'norm' separate away from society. Able to work at society with out keeping in it


Art And Democracy/Commercial:
Art has to be experienced and the shop is where people can experience it that democratic atmosphere.....


Art And Fashion
A skill encrusted with diamonds
Brand names


Artists 'Personalities'
-Psychology
-Social History
The ways in which an Artist is though of.
'Civilizer'-taste maker, dictates good taste. This could be seen as patronising!!
Who's taste? Who's purpose does it serve?
'Border Crosser' Challenges belief systems, engages critically


Lombroso 1836 
Artist more in common with the 'insane' than 'normal' people. Victorian and Romantic notions of the artists they though in a different way, seen and feel something that others cant.


Otto Rank 1932


Rudolf & Margot Wittkower 1963
Worked with the artists and crafts people


Sociologist:


Becker 1982 argues that art work cannot be the product of a sole individuals work and effort.
Today we are influenced by everything surrounding us including our art history. Understanding our influences  of what we already known, but could this creep into copyright laws ect.. as technically its others ideas?


Roger Hiorns:
Collaborations with buildings and scientist for the sulphate flat video he produced. Information by all of these people combined. The work would have excised if it wasn't for the audience.


Author ship:
Manufacturing someone for commission someone insane.
Creative industry practice
Feeling somethings as an artist
Boarder Crosser               the list is endless


The Death of the Author:


The artist is who dictates the meaning
It could be about a negotiated meanings/ collective understanding
The artist does not dictate the meaning


A painting is a text. Not not just an A4 piece of paper. This ties in with semiotics
'The birth of the reader must be at the cost of the death of the Artist'


Role of the Artist:
Produce 'great' works of art that are valuable for their own sake



Sometimes art work is sometimes to hard to talk about, this is because YOU don't understand it


Joost Conijn 2004
Dutch Activist
He is a boarder crosser
provoked outrage, it was a disgrace. He filmed a family and children doing outrageous things on there campsite which the children shouldn't be learning they should be at a school ect.. 
He challenges our conceptions, work is engages with question that are circling today. 
He actually lives in the caravan site which is how he was able to film the family.